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The Great Force · Dec 10, 2010, 03:01 AM // 03:01

What does the term Redbar mean? (example: This setup has enough prot and redbar not to need another healer most of the time.)

MisterB · Dec 10, 2010, 03:03 AM // 03:03

It means direct healing, or pushing the red bars in the party window up, hence "redbar."

Dzjudz · Dec 10, 2010, 03:04 AM // 03:04

Red Bars are health bars. The term Redbar refers to heals that focus on keeping the health bars up, usually with big single-target heals like Word of Healing.

X Ghoul · Dec 10, 2010, 04:34 AM // 04:34

In short terms, you play just looking at the 8 red health bars and not even field watch.

newbie_of_doom · Dec 10, 2010, 05:01 PM // 17:01

A red bar is your health bar. If a monk is red barring it means that he is watching the rather bars, rather than the field to use his healing or protection spells. This makes him inferior to monks that watch the battle field.
When you push red bars, you heal people.

Malganis · Dec 10, 2010, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Please explain how that is inferior? I'd like to learn how to be a more effective monk.

When I monk, I watch the health bars and when I see someone taking damage, a hex, or a condition, I use the appropriate spell. I turn my speakers up and listen for the sounds of battle. When the battle stops, I look back at the field and look for my drops. I play the healing/UA monk, not the prot monk, so I dont pay attention to the tank, I just watch the health bars and heal whoever's taking damage.

Xiner · Dec 10, 2010, 06:45 PM // 18:45

I think as a monk it's good to watch both.. If you see a warrior (for example) is going to get hit by a boss you can prevent this by casting a some prot spell on him. E.G it's useless to cast SoA on somebody who doesn't take much damage anymore.

Another thing.. If you see 2 bars which need decent healing. One of them just stopped taking damage while the other is still taking packets of damage. If you watch this situation on the battlefield you can heal the right person.

I think i give really bad examples, but this is how i assumed it worked. :P

Ghull Ka · Dec 10, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54

I think that "redbar" is just trying to describe the "bar goes down, push button to make bar go up again" portion of healing.

If you go out with only Word of Healing, Heal Other, Orison of Healing, Healing Whisper and Infuse Health... you're only thinking about redbarring. (and most would say this is 'doing it wrong')

Put some Prot Spirit, Guardian, Life Sheath, Reversal of Fortune or Aegis in the mix and you're doing more than just redbarring. You're now more versatile, less reactionary and more able to handle a wide variety of threats.

Let's face it, health bars that go down need to go back up again somehow. You can't just spam Guardian on things and win. Some amount of redbarring is required to keep people alive.

But they came up with a special term for the act of filling up a health bar so that you can start having more detailed conversations about healing, as a whole.

newbie_of_doom · Dec 11, 2010, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by Malganis

Please explain how that is inferior? I'd like to learn how to be a more effective monk.

When I monk, I watch the health bars and when I see someone taking damage, a hex, or a condition, I use the appropriate spell. I turn my speakers up and listen for the sounds of battle. When the battle stops, I look back at the field and look for my drops. I play the healing/UA monk, not the prot monk, so I dont pay attention to the tank, I just watch the health bars and heal whoever's taking damage.

You'll want to see who is going to take damage, not who has taken it. This is how you can protect them appropiately, or cast a word of healing before they are below 50% while still gaining the health bonus for healing someone below 50%. You could even put on an early patient spirit. In short, you'll be able to respond faster from a pure healing perspective, and actually protect someone with your protective spells before they get attacked. I guess it's not as bad in PvE as it is in PvP, but just watching the red bars does make one inferior to people that do not. (i.d. they watch the battlefield instead)

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Originally Posted by Xiner

I think as a monk it's good to watch both.. If you see a warrior (for example) is going to get hit by a boss you can prevent this by casting a some prot spell on him. E.G it's useless to cast SoA on somebody who doesn't take much damage anymore.

Another thing.. If you see 2 bars which need decent healing. One of them just stopped taking damage while the other is still taking packets of damage. If you watch this situation on the battlefield you can heal the right person.

I think i give really bad examples, but this is how i assumed it worked. :P

Surely, it's wise to keep your eye on the party red bars as well, but it is not essentially necessary. You can do all this by just watching the battlefield.

Dec 10, 2010, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#1
The Great Force Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Redbar? What does the term Redbar mean? (example: This setup has enough prot and redbar not to need another healer most of the time.)

Dec 10, 2010, 03:03 AM // 03:03	#2
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	It means direct healing, or pushing the red bars in the party window up, hence "redbar."

Dec 10, 2010, 03:04 AM // 03:04	#3
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Red Bars are health bars. The term Redbar refers to heals that focus on keeping the health bars up, usually with big single-target heals like Word of Healing.

Dec 10, 2010, 04:34 AM // 04:34	#4
X Ghoul Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: IGN: X Ghoul Guild: Mega M O R P H I N Power Ranger [pR] Profession: Rt/W	In short terms, you play just looking at the 8 red health bars and not even field watch.

Dec 10, 2010, 05:01 PM // 17:01	#5
newbie_of_doom Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WTFPRIVACYDUDE Guild: Endangered Feces [DoDo] Profession: W/Mo	A red bar is your health bar. If a monk is red barring it means that he is watching the rather bars, rather than the field to use his healing or protection spells. This makes him inferior to monks that watch the battle field. When you push red bars, you heal people.

Dec 10, 2010, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#6
Malganis Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southern California Guild: Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP] Profession: N/	Please explain how that is inferior? I'd like to learn how to be a more effective monk. When I monk, I watch the health bars and when I see someone taking damage, a hex, or a condition, I use the appropriate spell. I turn my speakers up and listen for the sounds of battle. When the battle stops, I look back at the field and look for my drops. I play the healing/UA monk, not the prot monk, so I dont pay attention to the tank, I just watch the health bars and heal whoever's taking damage.

Dec 10, 2010, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#7
Xiner Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: the Netherlands Profession: Mo/	I think as a monk it's good to watch both.. If you see a warrior (for example) is going to get hit by a boss you can prevent this by casting a some prot spell on him. E.G it's useless to cast SoA on somebody who doesn't take much damage anymore. Another thing.. If you see 2 bars which need decent healing. One of them just stopped taking damage while the other is still taking packets of damage. If you watch this situation on the battlefield you can heal the right person. I think i give really bad examples, but this is how i assumed it worked. :P

Dec 10, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54	#8
Ghull Ka Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Guild: Grenths Helpdesk Profession: N/	I think that "redbar" is just trying to describe the "bar goes down, push button to make bar go up again" portion of healing. If you go out with only Word of Healing, Heal Other, Orison of Healing, Healing Whisper and Infuse Health... you're only thinking about redbarring. (and most would say this is 'doing it wrong') Put some Prot Spirit, Guardian, Life Sheath, Reversal of Fortune or Aegis in the mix and you're doing more than just redbarring. You're now more versatile, less reactionary and more able to handle a wide variety of threats. Let's face it, health bars that go down need to go back up again somehow. You can't just spam Guardian on things and win. Some amount of redbarring is required to keep people alive. But they came up with a special term for the act of filling up a health bar so that you can start having more detailed conversations about healing, as a whole.